CSLA 4 - Getting up to speed, opinions on possibility of "online conference"

CSLA 4 - Getting up to speed, opinions on possibility of "online conference"

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skagen00 posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Sadly due to work I wasn't able to go to the Twin Cities code camp (April 10th) as I was really interested in attending the session for CSLA 4 (presented by none other than Rocky) to simply get a "spoken word" overview of the CSLA 4 changes in the pipeline.

I haven't delved deeply into the blog posts about CSLA 4 features but I get the sense that there are more breaking changes than most other releases as well as substantially revamped subsystems such as the business rules subsystem.

So one question - is there a recording of the CSLA 4 session that we can watch?

And the other question - are the blog posts the best summarization of the forthcoming changes or is there going to be some sort of e-book/video/etc as a supplementary offering later on?

Blog Posts as mentioned in the main CSLA 4 Preview thread are here:

Thanks!

Chris

 

RockfordLhotka replied on Wednesday, April 14, 2010

As soon as CSLA 4 is done I'll start creating formal content - probably both ebook and video formats. Right now the best source is the blog posts.

I'm also considering the idea of an "online conference" - where people would literally attend a set of live online presentations, with some time at the end of each for questions, about CSLA 4. What do you all think of that idea?

skagen00 replied on Wednesday, April 14, 2010

I think an online conference is a fantasic idea.

Jack replied on Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Fantastic idea ... maybe with a week in advance to send in questions of which the most pertinent could be used as the basic agenda.

hayrob replied on Thursday, April 15, 2010

Rocky

I love Csla!

There is a split emerging between those who can aford to purchase the video training and those of us who cannot and who depend on books/ebooks. This split is exacerbated by the need to shell out lots of dosh on VS2010 (and in my case Resharper) to get going on Csla4.

So my plea is that the priority is an ebook!

KevinKlasman replied on Thursday, April 15, 2010

Here's another vote for the online conference. The other content would be great as well.

Thanks!

Imker replied on Friday, April 16, 2010

Online Conference is a great idea. I read the forum and blogs on a daily basis to learn

more about CSLA. I often use a forum question to test and enhance my understanding

of the book chapters.  But please, record the conference and make it available for later

reference and learning pleasure. And of course... for the sake of users in different time zones

around the world.

 

 

RockfordLhotka replied on Friday, April 16, 2010

Yes, the global/time issue is a challenge. Recording the sessions is a good option. Another option is to do a series of perhaps 2-3 conferences at different times.

If I do this early in the morning (for me) I can get central and east US and Europe/UK all at once (morning in the US, afternoon in Europe/UK).

I think that if I do a late evening I can get east Asia and Australia.

India is the biggest challenge, because I think to get India I'd have to do the event in the middle of my night Tongue Tied

johntco replied on Friday, April 16, 2010

When is 4.0 anticipated to be completed?

Is the "4.0.0 Preview 2" completed enough so that I can use it to begin a project? I just purchased VS2010 and want to get started soon on a Web development project. If I create my business objects against Preview 2, will they need code changes, or just a rebuild, when 4.0 Final Release is completed?

RockfordLhotka replied on Friday, April 16, 2010

John Cohoon

When is 4.0 anticipated to be completed?

I hope to start the beta process within the next couple weeks. There are just two things that need to be finished: the authorization rules update and implementing INotifyDataErrorInfo on SL (which isn't hard fortunately).

Once the beta process starts it is usually 4-8 weeks to completion, depending on the feedback during the beta process.

John Cohoon

Is the "4.0.0 Preview 2" completed enough so that I can use it to begin a project? I just purchased VS2010 and want to get started soon on a Web development project. If I create my business objects against Preview 2, will they need code changes, or just a rebuild, when 4.0 Final Release is completed?

No, absolutely not. I wouldn't build anything serious using the preview releases. They are pre-beta. I put them out to solicit input.

Every time I do a release someone comes along months later and says "why didn't you do X?". The answer is often that I didn't think of X, and if that person had participated in the pre-release process they could have suggested X when it was actually possible to act on the suggestion.

But that doesn't mean the pre-releases are stable or consistent or should be used for serious work.

rxelizondo replied on Friday, April 16, 2010

RockfordLhotka

Recording the sessions is a good option.

 

 

Hi Rocky,

I am pretty sure that there are a bunch of other recording you have done in the past, I know I listen to one about MVVM (pretty good) and I think I also saw you in one of the VS 2010 launch events videos.

Anyway, not sure if you done this already or not, but I think it would be pretty nice if you had a page with links pointing to presentations (voice/video) that you have done in the past.

By the way, I am still patiently waiting for the MVVM video you promised us!!!! Smile

 

Jack replied on Friday, April 16, 2010

Rocky,

Something that would be beneficial to me is pointing out examples where the framework now , will, or could takes advantage of new .net 4.0 features (PLINQ, etc.).  I'm sure many others besides myself use the framework as examples of best practicies as well as standards.  I've learned so much from digging through the code and seeing how other people do things.  It is pretty massive though so having some bookmarks of where to look would be great.

Just a thought...

Jack

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