Sadly due to work I wasn't able to go to the Twin Cities code camp (April 10th) as I was really interested in attending the session for CSLA 4 (presented by none other than Rocky) to simply get a "spoken word" overview of the CSLA 4 changes in the pipeline.
I haven't delved deeply into the blog posts about CSLA 4 features but I get the sense that there are more breaking changes than most other releases as well as substantially revamped subsystems such as the business rules subsystem.
So one question - is there a recording of the CSLA 4 session that we can watch?
And the other question - are the blog posts the best summarization of the forthcoming changes or is there going to be some sort of e-book/video/etc as a supplementary offering later on?
Blog Posts as mentioned in the main CSLA 4 Preview thread are here:
Thanks!
Chris
As soon as CSLA 4 is done I'll start creating formal content - probably both ebook and video formats. Right now the best source is the blog posts.
I'm also considering the idea of an "online conference" - where people would literally attend a set of live online presentations, with some time at the end of each for questions, about CSLA 4. What do you all think of that idea?
I think an online conference is a fantasic idea.
Fantastic idea ... maybe with a week in advance to send in questions of which the most pertinent could be used as the basic agenda.
Rocky
I love Csla!
There is a split emerging between those who can aford to purchase the video training and those of us who cannot and who depend on books/ebooks. This split is exacerbated by the need to shell out lots of dosh on VS2010 (and in my case Resharper) to get going on Csla4.
So my plea is that the priority is an ebook!
Here's another vote for the online conference. The other content would be great as well.
Thanks!
Online Conference is a great idea. I read the forum and blogs on a daily basis to learn
more about CSLA. I often use a forum question to test and enhance my understanding
of the book chapters. But please, record the conference and make it available for later
reference and learning pleasure. And of course... for the sake of users in different time zones
around the world.
Yes, the global/time issue is a challenge. Recording the sessions is a good option. Another option is to do a series of perhaps 2-3 conferences at different times.
If I do this early in the morning (for me) I can get central and east US and Europe/UK all at once (morning in the US, afternoon in Europe/UK).
I think that if I do a late evening I can get east Asia and Australia.
India is the biggest challenge, because I think to get India I'd have to do the event in the middle of my night
When is 4.0 anticipated to be completed?
Is the "4.0.0 Preview 2" completed enough so that I can use it to begin a project? I just purchased VS2010 and want to get started soon on a Web development project. If I create my business objects against Preview 2, will they need code changes, or just a rebuild, when 4.0 Final Release is completed?
When is 4.0 anticipated to be completed?
I hope to start the beta process within the next couple weeks. There are just two things that need to be finished: the authorization rules update and implementing INotifyDataErrorInfo on SL (which isn't hard fortunately).
Once the beta process starts it is usually 4-8 weeks to completion, depending on the feedback during the beta process.
Is the "4.0.0 Preview 2" completed enough so that I can use it to begin a project? I just purchased VS2010 and want to get started soon on a Web development project. If I create my business objects against Preview 2, will they need code changes, or just a rebuild, when 4.0 Final Release is completed?
No, absolutely not. I wouldn't build anything serious using the preview releases. They are pre-beta. I put them out to solicit input.
Every time I do a release someone comes along months later and says "why didn't you do X?". The answer is often that I didn't think of X, and if that person had participated in the pre-release process they could have suggested X when it was actually possible to act on the suggestion.
But that doesn't mean the pre-releases are stable or consistent or should be used for serious work.
Recording the sessions is a good option.
Hi Rocky,
I am pretty sure that there are a bunch of other recording you have done in the past, I know I listen to one about MVVM (pretty good) and I think I also saw you in one of the VS 2010 launch events videos.
Anyway, not sure if you done this already or not, but I think it would be pretty nice if you had a page with links pointing to presentations (voice/video) that you have done in the past.
By the way, I am still patiently waiting for the MVVM video you promised us!!!!
Rocky,
Something that would be beneficial to me is pointing out examples where the framework now , will, or could takes advantage of new .net 4.0 features (PLINQ, etc.). I'm sure many others besides myself use the framework as examples of best practicies as well as standards. I've learned so much from digging through the code and seeing how other people do things. It is pretty massive though so having some bookmarks of where to look would be great.
Just a thought...
Jack
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